"Rowdy" Crowd Gathers For State Employee Pay

 

 

With hopes as bright as the clear March sunshine, some 700 members of the Oklahoma Public Employees Association, wearing green t-shirts that read “No Benefit Cut,”took to the south steps of the state Capitol on March 11 to hold a pay raise rally that was truly “one for the books.”

 

After a morning of lobbying around the Capitol, the members, some which were bused in from towns such as Sand Springs, Tulsa and Claremore went outside, armed with signs that read “$2,700 Pay Raise,” and “Don’t Cut Our Benefit Allowance.”

 

OPEA Deputy Director Scott Barger started off by asking those assembled if they were “sick and tired of being sick and tired?”

 

“If you are, it’s time you took destiny in your own hands and do something about it,” he said.

 

Barger went on to say that state employees were the “heart, hands and feet” of Oklahoma.

 

“You care for the sick and the elderly, you lift up children from abuse and neglect and you walk the corridors of our correctional facilities and alongside our roads, bridges and highways.”

 

Regarding the legislature, Barger called the law making body Oklahoma’s “Board of Directors.”

 

“Sometimes it seems as though all they care about is getting reelected,” he said.  “We are here today to remind them of their responsibilities to the taxpayers of Oklahoma.”

 

After Barger’s opening and an introduction by OPEA Vice-President Connie Stockton, Executive Director Sterling Zearley took to the podium.

 

“HB 3108 is Dead!” Zearley said.  (Later he and Barger would say goodbye to the bill by having the crowd sing “Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey Goodbye!)

 

Zearley went on to put some rumors to rest.

 

“There has been some wild talk that OPEA wrote HB 3108,” he said.  “That could not be further from the truth.  This association has fought the bill since the interim study last summer.”

 

After his remarks, Zearley introduced “the best Lt. Governor in Oklahoma history,” Jari Askins.

 

Referred to many times as one of OPEA’s greatest friends, Askins began her speech by thanking state employees for their hard work.

 

 

“As Lt. Governor, I spend a great deal of my time traveling across Oklahoma roads every day,” she said.  “I know that it is state employees that make those roads safe for all of us.”

 

Next on the Lt. Governor’s agenda was Oklahoma’s poor record involving mental health issues.

 

“Oklahoma is so behind in the money we spend on mental health,” she said.  “When we don’t take care of some of our most vulnerable citizens, they can eventually end up within our correctional facilities.”

 

Askins ended her presentation with a bit of a warning.

 

“We have all worked very hard to make sure that HB 3108 never reached the floor of the House, however, as it has never been voted upon, it could return at any time,” she said.  “You must be careful not to let it come back.”

 

State Senator Kenneth Corn (D-Poteau), author of the state employee pay raise bill in the Senate, next addressed the crowd.

 

“For too long state employees have been at the back of the line when it comes receiving the compensation they deserve,” he said.  “It’s time state employees are a priority.”

 

“You are going to hear over and over this year that ‘there’s not enough money,’” Corn said.  “When a legislator tells you this, ask them whether or not they voted for tax cuts.”

 

Corn concluded by saying “Hold your legislature accountable for what they do, or what they don’t do.”

 

House Minority Leader Danny Morgan (D-Prague) next addressed the crowd.

 

“Welcome to your house,” he said.  “It’s great that you are here and ready to fight for what you deserve, which is a pay raise.”

 

Morgan said that particularly troubling to him were the skyrocketing costs associated with personnel turnover in state government.

 

“As a small business owner, I know how much it costs to recruit and retain new employees,” he said.  “With $85 million in turnover costs flying out the window every year, Oklahoma is not managing its resources very well,” he said.

 Morgan went on.

 

“I know that while you are serving the public, you are thinking of buying your next tank of gas, of sending your children to college,” he said.  “You need a $2,700 pay raise now!”

  

After brief remarks from Senate Co-President Pro Tempore Glenn Coffee, Rep. Brian Renegar (D-McAlester), who was the first House member to publicly endorse a pay raise, told a story regarding the media reaction to his stance.

 

“I was talking to a radio reporter on the phone who said ‘Isn’t $2,700 too much for a state employee pay raise,?’” he said.   “I can’t repeat my answer to him in polite society!”

 

Sen. Andrew Rice (D-Oklahoma City) represented Senate Co-President Pro Tempore Mike Morgan. 

 

“I want to ask you seriously if you are better off than you were four years ago,?” he said. 

 

Rice continued by saying that a recent study showed the futility of the tax cuts enacted by the legislature last session.

 

“Oklahoma taxpayers averaged less than $100.00 per year because of the tax cuts,” he said.  “And state employees have to do more with less and have gone too long without salary increases.”

 

With his constituents from the Rader Center in Sand Springs by his side, newly elected House Speaker Chris Benge next took the microphone.

 

“We are very early in the session,” he said.  “And, with our budget situation as it is, we are going to have to make tough decisions.”

 

Benge went on to tell the members that they had qualified representation at the Capitol.

 

“We have found Sterling and Scott excellent to work with,” he said.  “You have a very, very effective lobby team.”

 

Speaking last from the legislature was Rep. Wallace Collins (D-Norman).

 

“I want to tell you right now that I am going to do everything I can to get you the pay raise you deserve,” he said.

 

Batting cleanup at the rally was Governor Brad Henry.

  

“After all the years I have addressed state employees, this is by far the largest turnout I’ve ever seen,” he said.

 

After saying that Oklahoma had the best state employees in the country, Henry quieted the crowd by saying “unfortunately…….”

 

He finished his sentence by saying “you are not paid what you’re worth!”

 

Henry went on to discuss the market compensation study put in place last year by his executive order.

 

“State employee pay is not competitive,” he said. “And we lose them every day.” 

 

“I am today committing to you my support in a long term compensation plan for state employees, he said, in an apparent reaction to the “rowdy” crowd.

 

“I will fight with you until the end,” the Governor said.

 

Also attending the rally were Rep. Scott Bighorse (D- Pawhuska), Rep. Neil Brannon (D-Arkoma), Rep. Ed Cannaday (D-Whitefield), Rep. Al Lindley (another OPEA member) (D-Oklahoma City), Rep. Ray McCarter (D-Marlow), Rep. Al McAffery (D-Oklahoma City), Rep. Scott Inman (D-Del City), Rep. Eric Proctor (D-Tulsa), Sen. Constance Johnson (D-Oklahoma City), Rep. Mike Shelton (D-Oklahoma City), Rep. Dale Turner (D-Holdenville), Rep. Chuck Hoskin (D-Vinita), Rep. Jerry McPeak (D-Muskogee), Rep. Larry Glenn (D-Miami) and Rep. Jerry Shoemake (D-Morris).

 (Update..OPEA now estimates that 1,000 state employees attended the rally!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

31 comments (Add your own)

1. J wrote:
I hope we made a impression on the legislature today. We have to guard against the return of HB3108 next year. Please vote this year for legislators that vote for you and throw the other BUMS OUT!!!!

March 11, 2008 @ 6:31 PM

2. wrote:
Oklahoman article is here: http://newsok.com/article/3214893/1205262748

March 11, 2008 @ 8:15 PM

3. Tom Dunning wrote:
Rep. Ken Miller, Edmond, is chair of the appropriations committee in the house. He needs to hear a strong message from state employees, especially those who live in Edmond. The money can be found if they are willing to dig for it. That's what I told Rep. Miller today.

March 11, 2008 @ 9:12 PM

4. TC wrote:
OK-State employees rally at Capitol for more pay
03/11/2008 by William W. Savage III
(OK) A raucous crowd of state employees chanted "It's our turn" and rejected the notion that money is not available for pay raises during a rally on the state Capitol's south steps Tuesday.
About 200 members of the Oklahoma Public Employees Association listened to legislators and Gov. Brad Henry around noon. Many held signs supporting a $2,700 pay increase, and others' signs protested a currently dormant proposal to decrease a certain faction of employee benefit pay.

One bright orange sign, held behind the podium, read: "Our representatives - 6th highest paid in the nation. State employees - 50th lowest pay in the nation. Who's supporting who?"

Several Democratic senators and representatives spoke in favor of state employee pay raises.

"We have to stop the turnover in state agencies," said House Democrat Leader Danny Morgan of Prague. "You know the experience and dedication that we lose to the private sector."

Others implied it is not only employees that are going to the private sector.

"Ask those members (of the Legislature) if they voted for the last tax cuts," said Sen. Kenneth Corn, D-Poteau. "Don't let them say that there's no money for your pay raises but that they voted for tax cuts (last year).

"This is an election year. If this Legislature does not act, then hold these members responsible."

Corn has offered his own legislation that would provide a pay raise. SB 1379 awards a $2,700 salary increase to full-time and part-time state employees who received a rating of "meets standards" or higher on his or her performance rating effective July 1, 2008. The measure excludes certain individuals from being eligible for the pay raise. The bill prohibits money appropriated to the agency for the salary increase from being used to increase compensation for employees of private businesses under contract with the agency.

Moments after Corn's comments, Senate Co-President Pro Tempore Glenn Coffee, R-Oklahoma City, stepped to the podium and thanked the employees for the important work they do.

But Coffee said he was not going to beat around the bush.

"I wish I was standing here today saying the pay raise was definitely going to happen," Coffee said to a chorus of "boo's."

"Quit giving all the oil companies all the tax breaks!" yelled one crowd member.

"Let's take it out of your paycheck!" yelled another.

"Find the money!" yelled a third, to which the first crowd member responded: "You gave it all to the oil companies!"

Coffee continued.

"I know my message isn't popular today," he said, adding that in an election year, it is easy for the Democrats to make promises.

After he left the podium, Coffee extended his comments, adding that the pay raise proposal has a fiscal impact of "tens of millions of dollars" in what everyone agrees is a tight budget year.

Coffee also said the bill that would affect employee benefits likely would not be heard on the House floor.

The bill to which Coffee referred was HB 3108, by Rep. Ron Peterson, R-Broken Arrow. The bill modifies language related to the state's flexible benefit plan, expanding a certain calculation of average monthly premiums to include all health insurance plans, not just high option plans.

"That bill is dead for the session, and I probably don't see it coming back," Coffee said.

The bill was pulled from the House agenda Monday, which was happy news to one OPEA member.

"We're not asking for a lot," said James Swanson, an employee of the Department of Corrections. "We're just asking for enough money to get by."

Swanson said he would not vote for any legislator who had supported recent tax cuts.

"I'm not for a tax increase, but if we don't have enough money to do what we need to do, how can we be cutting taxes?" Swanson asked.

Speaker of the House Chris Benge, R-Tulsa, and Henry also spoke to the crowd, and while they did not advocate the proposed raise as requested by the employees, both stressed the importance of state employees. Henry noted that Oklahoma's employees fall below market pay.

"We have the best state employees in the country," Henry said. "Unfortunately ?."

Henry was cut-off by "boo's" and crowd comments: "Tell us something we don't know!" one member said.

"Pay us!" said another.

But Henry continued his statement, saying that he had proposed a 5 percent increase in employee pay during his State of the State address. OPEA is requesting a 12 percent increase.

Henry, despite budget concerns, remained optimistic.

"There is no reason that we cannot overcome this challenge," Henry said. "It is long past time that we institute a long-term pay plan for state employees."

Paul Sund, Henry's press secretary, later said Henry wants "whatever we can get" for both his teacher and state employee pay raise proposals.

March 11, 2008 @ 9:17 PM

5. kevin wrote:
We need bigger numbers! 2000-3000 people..isn't there 36000 state employees? couldn't we get 8 percent of those at the capital? Thanks for all those who went to the capital today and spoke up for all state employees!

March 11, 2008 @ 9:40 PM

6. wrote:
Sad, sad, sad. There were hardly any people at this rally. I was shocked at the lack of participation. Only a couple hundred there at noon during the speeches. No wonder we dont' have a voice. I expected that area to be filled with a few thousand since it appears everyone wants a raise so badly. How is 200-300 representative of 37,000? My proposal is to give raises only to those that ask for it directly, like those of us that attended. Then a pay raise would pass since it would only cost $2,000,000 for all 700 that supposedly were there somewhere. But again, probably only 200-300 attended the rally/speeches.
I know not everyone could make it, but only 2% of all state employees showed up!
On a related note, I contacted my rep, and all he had to say was "I am not on that committee". Lot of good that effort did me!

March 11, 2008 @ 9:50 PM

7. wrote:
To #6, how can you say give raises to only those that attended the rally???!!! I work for the Oklahoma Tax Commission and right now is our busiest time of year. We could not take off to attend the rally because we are collecting some of the revenue that helps this State run. So I guess you're saying even though we collect it, we are not worthy of receiving a raise because we were not there. That's tacky. I did my share of emails & phone calls. Me & my fellow employees deserve it just as much as the ones that were able to be there. Shame on you!! I think everyone that works hard at their State job, unless of course you're a teacher and have already received raises, should get their $2700.00 raise.

March 11, 2008 @ 10:39 PM

8. J wrote:
I could not be there because I get 40 to 60 cases a week. I cannot get behind in my work or I would be swamped with work constantly. The cases never stop. it is a priority in our department. I would have loved to be there. BUT!!!! I have to keep up with my work.

March 12, 2008 @ 5:31 AM

9. dj wrote:
#6, somebody has to man the office so you can go.

March 12, 2008 @ 8:20 AM

10. dj wrote:
I'd like to know how many people were really there, the newspaper says 200, Tulsa TV says 500, and OPEA says 700. Anybody get an accurate count?

March 12, 2008 @ 8:21 AM

11. Bob Zapffe wrote:
TC, thanks so much for including an article covering the rally. I presume it came from the Tulsa World. As a registered Republican, I appreciate the better coverage of Co-President Pro Tempore Coffee's remarks. Even though they were not as encouraging as most of the Democrats, let's not forget we are a bipartisan group and must work both sides of the aisle to push for our cost of living adjustment and the rest of our agenda.

I missed Sen. Coffee's remarks due to visiting with Rep. Charles Key too long. It is not too late for those of you who missed the rally, or wish to follow up with your legislators to send an e-mail or call. Go to http://capwiz.com/opea/state/main/?state=OK&view=localofficials#2 to contact your local legislators or look up others you might be able to influence.

March 12, 2008 @ 9:34 AM

12. Julia Olson wrote:
Don't leave out Wallace Collins. He is a strong advocate for our mentally ill.He supported out pay raise.
Thanks.

March 12, 2008 @ 9:37 AM

13. wrote:
It is awesome to see State workers coming together! Now it's time for the unions to come together...if we want to make a HUGE NOISE let the unions pull it together and work with each and then we will see some REAL success!

March 12, 2008 @ 9:46 AM

14. Tom Dunning wrote:
In my opinion, those who could really help our cause are those state employees who work at the capitol complex. However, many didn't even take the time to use one lunch hour to attend the rally and visit their representatives.

How tough can that be.

Hats off to those who came in from across the state. Shame on locals who couldn't walk across the mall on their lunch.

OKC workers have lunch hours and are close by. They should walk the halls and spread the news.

March 12, 2008 @ 10:36 AM

15. Luke wrote:
About 200-300 people were there.

Corrections to the article - they support us so we ought to get their names right:

Rep. Neil Brannon (not Branan who is a Republican not in attendance)

Rep. Chuck Hoskin (not Hoskins)

And most importantly, Rep. Richard Morrissette, who spoke and is quoted in the title of this article when he called us a "rowdy bunch." How can you omit him and quote him in the article's title???

March 12, 2008 @ 11:21 AM

16. Al Ruble wrote:
I am very concerned with the governors comments. He never did say he would support a 2700. pay raise effective in 0708. what he did say was "I am committing to you my support in a long term compensation plan for state employees". I don't trust him. I believe he is saying long term plan means a little now and a little more later. He wants to give the teachers ANOTHER BIG RAISE and make us wait until 2009 for 5%. Let him know how we feel about it. ahr

March 12, 2008 @ 11:30 AM

17. wrote:
Number 13 are you talking about CWA (Communications Workers of America)? They are totally useless when it comes to state employees. They just want your dues. Are you talking about the teachers union? Explain yourself? Most of the good union leadership in America died when Jimmy Hoffa Sr. mysteriously disapeared in 1975. Remember back in the 80's when the air traffic controllers went on strike? PATCO strike. President Ronald Reagan ordered them back to work under the terms of the Taft Hartley act of 1947, as it was a "peril to national safety". They were fired and replaced for not returning to work within 48 hours. That is more than likely what would happen to us under present Oklahoma state law if we would go on strike. I would not get too excited about a union just yet, although I would agree with you that we, the state employees, need solidarity. We also need to get the word out to the news media to dispel some of the rumors floating around about state employees, and pay/benefits for state employees. There is a lot of misinformation out there. For now, OPEA is the best organization we have that advocates for the Oklahoma public employee.

March 12, 2008 @ 11:34 AM

18. FattCatt wrote:
Here is a copy of the comments I sent in an e-mail to my Rep., Sen. & Gov.

According to Lisa Fortier of OPM says "40% of Oklahoma State employees will be retiring by 2010", this along with the fact that new hires are not staying. In 2010 the Oklahoma Congress will have a major epidemic on their hands because no one will be employed to deliver services to the
public. And who is the Oklahoma tax payer going to blame?...You! You guys may not want to deal with the State employees but you will have to answer to the Oklahoma voter. So go ahead and ignore this problem that's your choice however you will have to face it at least by 2010.


>*x*<

March 12, 2008 @ 12:49 PM

19. John Martin wrote:
To No. 13 & No 17...can state employees unionize? I personally like the USWA / AFL/CIO.

What bothers is the de-classification of jobs and having to come and "let the legislature know tha I / we need a pay raise". Any person can see that we have gone with out for too long & with fuel prices going out the roof and food prices are right behind; we shouldn't have to beg like paupers for a pay increase and for a pay raise that only gives us our buying power back in line with 2004.

It is just sickening.

March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 PM

20. wrote:
We can unionize, however, no union leaders will take the time with the legislature like OPEA will in order to get us anything. Oklahoma has always been an anti-union state. Another thing is, unless it is voted on by the legislature, it will not happen. There are laws preventing us from striking or walking off the job. I understand there are some states where the state correctional officers belong to unions and they have been effective in getting them pay, benefits, and good working conditions. I just do not think this would happen in Oklahoma. For now, the best thing we have going is OPEA.

March 13, 2008 @ 1:26 PM

21. Betty wrote:
I would like to see a raise, I have not had one since the last one voted in by legisation. then we only actually received part of it, 5% for 6 months and 3% for 6 months and by time taxes were taken out very little came home. If you look around alot of state employees are working a second job just to make ends-meet. We deserve a decent raise.

March 13, 2008 @ 7:48 PM

22. Kevin wrote:
Folks.. Dont let them fool you they could give us a 2700 pay raise..the money is there..they say its not but they say that every yr..oil is 111 dollars a barrel..where did all the oil profits go from last yr?.last time I checked we were losing a lot of state workers to the oil buisness. I my self am young and man its hard to say no to that kind of money.. Iv worked for DOC for 4 yrs and DOC has always been desperate to hire whoever..I dont supose this will change in 10 yrs or less when the oil busts again. whats to stop me from going and doing that right now?

March 14, 2008 @ 7:11 AM

23. moorite wrote:
Scott Meacham, the Governor's Chief Budget Negotiator says:

http://www.normantranscript.com/localnews/local_story_073142104.html?start:int=0

"But while Meacham said the state's financial picture wasn't rocky as the past, he said Oklahomans shouldn't expect new tax reductions this year. "I don't see any tax reductions right now," he said. "I believe we're looking at a maintenance type budget."

Meacham said that "maintenance budget" would include little, if any, new spending and would probably fund most state agencies at their current level. This year's budget probably wouldn't incude tax reductions, increases in pay for teachers or state employees or other spending initiatives."

Looks like there will be no pay raise this year!

March 14, 2008 @ 8:54 AM

24. wrote:
Oklahoma, according to a chart from the California energy commission, in 2000 is about 7th from the bottom on collecting taxes on gasoline at 17 cents per gallon. The federal excise tax then was 18.3 cents per gallon. I am still looking for a more up to date chart. Folks, that is a lot of money we are talking. Figure up how many gallons of gasoline you consume every year and do the math. Then figure out how much they get from other sales taxes and federal and state income taxes. And that does not include the trucks that deliver our products to market. Truckers pay unbelievable high highway use taxes (highway robbery taxes). I know. I have drove trucks for a living. Other goods and services rise in cost because of higher fuel costs. Folks, the polititians are stealing us blind at the state and federal levels of government. It is time for the American people to say enough is enough. We need to put a stop to it now! Can you imagine what it will be like in 2 more years when gasoline is $5.00 per gallon? The big oil companies are all seeing large profits. People are losing their homes. Factories are closing or being moved overseas. Look at GM and Dayton tire in Oklahoma City. American industries that can not compete in a global economy. Defense contracts are going to foriegn countries. Where is all the tax money going? They are not properly funding the state agencies to operate. We all need to quit driving to work and rally in Washington D.C.

March 14, 2008 @ 11:08 AM

25. Fed Up wrote:
Oklahoma is a LAME,BACKWARD state! Other states have Constitutional provisions or at least a process in place to provide for their state employees' regular pay raises and benefits. Okla. DOES NOT!!! (never has!) I am going to leave this pathetic loser state for a better one, where I will at least be treated with a reasonable level of dignity and respect! - a state where I won't have to beg (or live) like a pauper just to MAYBE have and keep decent pay and benefits!!!!! I am absolutely FED UP with the lame, spineless EXCUSES(i.e. no money, etc.) served up by Okla. politicians YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR just to pacify us! I'm FED UP with having to cast my pearls before swine!!!! Okla. state employees have NEVER been compensated adequately for the work that we do for this state!
The Democrats over the last few decades(when they were the majority), have had golden opportunities to really show how much the care about Okla St employeees(i.e.writing Constitutional provisions, etc.)but never did!!! My my,what friends they are to us!! We KNOW that the Republicans ar NOT our friends. Conclusion: Oklahoma state employees don't have any REAL friends!!! When is Oklahoma going to get itself into the 21st century and become sucessful at benefitting state employees like other have (and are)????????

March 14, 2008 @ 12:36 PM

26. Fed Up wrote:
Oklahoma is a LAME,BACKWARD state! Other states have Constitutional provisions or at least a process in place to provide for their state employees' regular pay raises and benefits. Okla. DOES NOT!!! (never has!) I am going to leave this pathetic loser state for a better one, where I will at least be treated with a reasonable level of dignity and respect! - a state where I won't have to beg (or live) like a pauper just to MAYBE have and keep decent pay and benefits!!!!! I am absolutely FED UP with the lame, spineless EXCUSES(i.e. no money, etc.) served up by Okla. politicians YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR just to pacify us! I'm FED UP with having to cast my pearls before swine!!!! Okla. state employees have NEVER been compensated adequately for the work that we do for this state!
The Democrats over the last few decades(when they were the majority), have had golden opportunities to really show how much the care about Okla St employeees(i.e.writing Constitutional provisions, etc.)but never did!!! My my,what friends they are to us!! We KNOW that the Republicans ar NOT our friends. Conclusion: Oklahoma state employees don't have any REAL friends!!! When is Oklahoma going to get itself into the 21st century and become sucessful at benefitting state employees like other have (and are)????????

March 14, 2008 @ 12:36 PM

27. 26.Fed Up wrote:
Posted same messsage twice by accident, Sorry

March 14, 2008 @ 1:48 PM

28. wrote:
They got the money to give us a $2700 payraise every year for the next 20 years. Billions of dollars off of taxes on fuel. Billions of dollars off of sales tax. Billions of dollars of income taxes. Billions of dollars of corporate taxes. Car tags, hunting and fishing permits, etc. The money is there. It is way, way more than what they are saying.

March 15, 2008 @ 3:08 AM

29. Jabber Mouth wrote:
$2700.00 a nice start, lets see that breaks down to $225.00 a month. Now after taxs lets make that about $145.00 a month payraise. $145.00 divided by 4 ( weeks in a month ) thats about $36.25 a week, ummmmmm maybe 3/4 a tank of gas. $2700. a year is a nice start but its only a DROP in the bucket to what we need.

March 16, 2008 @ 7:06 AM

30. wrote:
T.Boone Pickens said oil could go as high as $200 per barrel in the next few years. It is now at $110 per barrel. Think what gas prices will be then. At this rate, they will have to give us a raise every year to keep up with the cost of living. We are behind because they have not kept our wages up. A $2700 raise with one every year for the next 5 years would possibly catch us up. The Oklahoma legislature will never keep us up with cost of living.

March 17, 2008 @ 10:19 AM

31. Activist wrote:
Nothing will change in our state until we quit whining and get off of our duffs to make a difference. It's easy to write emails to blow off steam but until we get the number of members that other organizations have we won't have a loud voice. Ask yourself, "How many OPEA members have I recruited?"

March 17, 2008 @ 1:24 PM

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